The Denver-area housing market staged a 6.9 percent year-over-year gain in October, according to the closely followed Case-Shiller report release today.
For the second consecutive month, Denver’s gain was the largest in more than a decade. October’s gain was slightly higher than the 6.7 percent year-over-year increase in September. The last time the metro area showed a larger year-over-year percentage gain was in November 2001, when prices rose by 7.6 percent, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Prices Indices, which tracks 20 major metropolitan areas across the U.S.
October marked the 10th consecutive month of year-over-year gains for the metro area. In other words, every month this year tracked so far by Case-Shiller was an improvement over the same month in 2011.
Denver beat the 4.3 percent average gain for the 20 composite cities and the 3.4 percent increase for 10 of them, which includes Denver.
Phoenix was again No. 1, rising 21.7 percent. Detroit also showed a double-digit gain, rising 10 percent. Overall, Denver ranked seventh of the 20 metropolitan statistical areas. The last time Denver was in seventh place was in March 2011. However, that month it showed a year-over-year loss of 3.8 percent.
Meanwhile, long-term, the “index value” for homes in the Denver area stood at 134.03 in October, which means that houses on average have risen 34 percent since January 2000. The last time the index value was higher in Denver was in October 2007, when it stood at 136.04 percent.
“The Case Shiller data is consistent with what we are seeing in the market — price increases and appreciation solidly in the 5 percent to 10 percent range. These gains are widespread, occurring across almost all price ranges and geographies,” said Lane Hornung, CEO and president 8z Real Estate.
“The seasonally adjusted Case Shiller numbers, which show month over month increases this fall, confirm that our market is much more active than is typical at this time of year. Look for more good data from Case Shiller in the months ahead,” Hornung said.
Independent broker Gary Bauer said the Case-Shiller report is “super” news for the Denver-area housing market.
“I think, again, this report shows the strength of our market,” Bauer said.
He said he is not discouraged that Denver was not in the top three or top five markets.
Neither is Peter Niederman, CEO of the Kentwood Co.
Niederman pointed out that it is good for the national housing market and the overall U.S. economy, that other formerly depressed markets are rebounding. Because they had such big drops, it is easier for those markets to show big percentage gains as increase demand from investors and consumers drive up prices.
“Several months ago, you asked me if I was concerned that it looked like we would drop out of the top five markets and if you remember, I said that was OK,” Niederman said. “My point is that we need all markets to recover for a sustainable recovery, not just one or two MSAs or one region.”
He noted in October, only two markets, New York City and Chicago, were down, on a year-over-year basis, falling, respectively, 1.2 percent and 1.3 percent.
“It is interesting two of the biggest markets were down,” Niederman said. “But 18 of the 20 MSAs in positive territory is not bad. Actually, that is very good.”
That is exactly right, Bauer said.
“We are not going to be in the top three or four markets, because we never experienced these tremendous peaks and tremendous loss of value,” Bauer said. “Because we never fell as much, we don’t have the capacity to see these tremendous percentage gains of other markets.”
Bauer, who releases his own monthly report on the Denver-area housing market based on Metrolist data, expects a strong December.
“The last, quick survey I ran, showed activity was extremely strong,” Bauer said. “I think it is going to continue right to the end of the year.”
Bauer said in addition to brokers, others in the industry such as lenders, title insurance companies, appraisers and inspectors, are much busier than they usually are at this time of the year.
“My understanding is they are doing everything they can do try to close sales by the end of the year, including extending hours,” Bauer said. “They know some of the activity will carry over until next year, but they are pushing to get everything closed by next Monday.”
Nationally, the market wasn’t quite as robust in October as was in September, at least on a month-to-month basis. Typically, for seasonal reasons, activity slows in the fall and winter.
“The October monthly numbers were weaker than September as 12 cities saw prices drop compared to seven the month before.” said David M. Blitzer, Chairman of the Index Committee at S&P Dow Jones Indices. “The five which turned down in October but not in September, were Atlanta, Dallas, Miami, Minneapolis and Seattle. Among all 20 cities, Chicago was the weakest with prices dropping 1.5 percent, followed by Boston where prices fell 1.4 percent. Las Vegas saw the strongest one-month gain with prices up 2.8 percent.”
Denver was flat from September, showing no change.
“Annual rates of change in home prices are a better indicator of the performance of the housing market than the month-over-month changes because home prices tend to be lower in fall and winter than in spring and summer,” Blitzer continued. “Both the 10- and 20-City Composites and 19 of 20 cities recorded higher annual returns in October 2012 than in September. The impact of the seasons can also be seen in the seasonally adjusted data where only three cities declined month-to-month. The 10-City Composite annual rate of 3.4 percent in October was lower than the 20-City Composite annual figure of 4.3 percent because the two weaker cities – Chicago and New York – have higher weights in the 10-City Composite.
“Looking over this report, and considering other data on housing starts and sales, it is clear that the housing recovery is gathering strength,” Blitzer said. “Higher year-over-year price gains plus strong performances in the southwest and California, regions that suffered during the housing bust, confirm that housing is now contributing to the economy. Last week’s final revision to third quarter GDP growth showed that housing represented 10 percent of the growth while accounting for less than 3 percent of GDP.
“One indication of the rebound is the gains from the bottom,” Blitzer said. The largest rebound is 24.2 percent in Detroit even though prices there are still about 20 percent lower than 12 years ago. San Francisco and Phoenix have also rebounded from recent lows by 22.5 percent and 22.1 percent with prices comfortably higher than 12 years ago. The smallest recoveries are seen in Boston and New York, two cities in the northeast which suffered smaller losses in the housing bust than the Sunbelt or California.”
Valerie White, a senior director at U.S. Public Finance at Standard & Poor;s Rating Service, was bullish on the national housing market in 2013.
“We expect housing to remain a bright spot in 2013, as long as the U.S. avoids the fiscal cliff and growth continues,” White wrote in a recent blog. “We forecast U.S. national home prices to increase 5 percent. However, tight lending remains a key concern for housing demand because the limited availability of credit could weigh on borrowers.”
She also believes more homeowners may take advantage of historically low rates and refinance next year.
“An improved outlook for housing, along with higher home prices, could increase the availability of mortgage credit and ease lending constraints, allowing borrowers with lower quality credit histories to refinance,” according to White. “More than 1.3 million borrowers have moved from negative to positive home equity in 2012, because of rising home prices. Homeowners with positive equity are able to refinance, taking advantage of the current very low interest rate environment.
“With more affordable mortgage payments, and some equity in their homes, consumers are less likely to default, which we view as positive for housing supply fundamentals. On the demand side, the rise in household formation over the past year is also positive for housing demand, in our view.”
Niederman said one of the biggest concerns is if Congress tinkers a lot with the mortgage interest deduction as a way to help address the national deficit.
“That could have a very dramatic impact on consumers buying homes,” Niederman said. “It is yet to be determined on a go-forward basis. We don’t know yet how it will play out and how the government will treat it. Will they do it in phases? Will they put a cap on deductions? Will it be based on a price point? We just don’t know what will happen, but it is an important metric to monitor.”
He said he understands that some sacrifices will need to be made to reduce government debt.
“I think all of us know and expect, one way or another, we are all going to be paying more in taxes,” Niederman said. “It doesn’t really matter if you are a Democrat or a Republican. We know we have to do something about our government debt and get a grip on this fiscal problem, so the country can prosper going forward.”
Niederman said the health of the housing market always comes down to two factors.
“I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but it really comes down to consumer confidence and the job market.”
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MSA Change from January 2000 October-November (non-seasonly adjusted) 1-Year Change from November
Atlanta -3.32% 0.1% 7.6%
Boston 53.74% -0.9% 2.3%
Charlotte 15.41% -0.3% 5.1%
Chicago 13.35% -1.3% 0.8%
Cleveland 0.68% -0.8% 1.8%
Dallas 20.55% -0.1% 5.7%
DENVER 34.50% 0.4% 7.8%
Detroit -19.67% -0.3% 11.9%
Las Vegas 0.56% 0.4% 10.0%
Los Angeles 75.58% 0.4% 7.7%
Miami 51.13% 0.8% 9.9%
Minneapolis 26.41% 1.0% 11.1%
New York 62.86% -1.1% -1.2%
Phoenix 24.16% 1.4% 22.8%
Portland 42.13% -0.2% 6.7%
San Diego 63.58% 0.9% 6.7%
San Francisco 46.23% 1.4% 12.7%
Seattle 42.53% 0.5% 7.4%
Tampa 33.77% -0.2% 6.8%
Washington, D.C. 89.11% -0.6% 4.4%
Composite-10 58.28% -0.2% 4.5%
Composite-20 45.82% -0.1% 5.5%
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“He said he understands that some sacrifices will need to be made to reduce government debt.”
Yes, indeed.
Let’s phase out the mortgage interest deduction over 10 years.
I expect this time next year that Denver will become the first Metro Area to surpass it’s previous case shiller index historical high, which was March 2006, 5% above where the index currently sit, that will be the big story. December 2012 gains could very well exceed that Nov 2001 number of 7.6% y/y.
You are absolutely right. We are getting very close to the highest prices ever in Denver. It will happen by June. As prices continue to march forward in this excellent bull market, I wonder what it will take for the pessimists to admit we are in a major bull market. Will it be at the 160 level? 180? 200?
@DJ
Slow down big boy!! Calling this a “major bull market” might be a little premature. I know you are on record calling for homes to double in the next 28 month(yes, last sring you said prices would double in the next 3 years). By spring, you will be 1/10 of the way there, as prices will have risen 10% off the recession lows set in Feb. 2012. Let’s see how the next 10% of the uptrend goes. I bet prices while still moving up slowly, will become choppy. I would be very surprised to see greater than 6% YoY price increases next December. Also, prices can only rise as long as Ben Bernanke and his merry band of Fed governor’s allow them to. Don’t forget the Fed/congress controls 100% of this market. Higher rates and/or tighter lending standards can and will put the breaks on prices. Also, not out of the realm of possibilities, you could see FHA, VA, Fannie and Freedie to raise min down payments levels based on geograpical areas. For example, If bubbles start to deveolpe in a cities before the national market recovers, FHA could just require a 10% min down payment instead of 3.5% in that zip code. They already do that with maximum loan amounts now. Don’t discount this Federal Reserve/congress/executive branch resolve, they have proven they will use very unconventional tools to control prices. I’m not a pessimist, just a realist. I think it’s dangerous for people like DJ to encourage home buyers and investors to get into a bubble mentality. It did a lot of damage to the world economy. Many lessons have been learned and I know the powers to be will never want to see that scenario unfold again. My advice, if you like a home and you can afford a 30 year fixed rate loan payment and you plan to stay there for at least 7 years it’s a great time to buy. If not, be careful, prices can fall even though DJ will rebut this in the next 5min, telling you use as much leverage as you can and buy before its too late.
+1
We never even had a bubble in Denver after the tech bust. You show very little understanding for how the markets work, but thank goodness there will always be those who don’t understand, because smart investors like myself will always be able to make a lot of money.
“My advice, if you like a home and you can afford a 30 year fixed rate loan payment and you plan to stay there for at least 7 years it’s a great time to buy.”
That is the ultimate used house salesman line fed to the masses. Guess it didn’t work so well for people who bought 7 years ago. I’m not advocating buying a house to live in because it is a lousy investment at best. Rental property is, however, one of the best ways for the average person to make 30%+ returns consistently. If you haven’t figured out that it is possible to buy rentals with little money down AND with very little risk, then we are so far apart in knowledge that it’s not even worth having this conversation.
@DJ
You can call the downturn in the Denver market what ever you want. Colorado has been in the top 10 in ratio of homes to homes in foreclosure for at least 6 years. John R. just wrote 3 blog post telling how the downtown condo market has dropped 40% from te peak. Sound like a bubble in that sub market. Edie Marks talks about high end home selling at 50 cents on the dollar from the peak. That sub market sounds like a bubble.
only according to realty trash numbers, according to the much more respected mortgage banker’s data, denver is in the bottom third in percentage of homes in foreclosure
@DJ
You don’t need a bubble to loose the $40,000 you put down on your $400,000 home. Prices need to fall only 5%, after the 6% you pay the broker, it’s all gone and the worst part is, you need to bring $6,000 to closing when you sell.
Why sell when you can rent the place for positive cash flow? Oh right, you probably didnt anticipate needing to do that like most suckers. Im not advocating silly risky investments. Its really quite easy if you know the market and seek advice from experts like myself. I make money no matter what happens with prices, but when prices rise i make a killing.
@dj
“I make money no matter what happens with prices, but when prices rise i make a killing”.
Where have I heard this before? Oh yes, Bernie Madoff.
” Im not advocating silly risky investments.”
DJ- every time you spout off your “home price will double in the next 3 year” nonsense, you are advocating “silly risky investment” Every time you say, ” if you don’t buy now you will be sorry”, you advocate “silly risky investment”. Yes DJ, you are an expert Used House Salesman……I’m sure any fool and his/her money would be lucky to have you represent them…
Alright you hold on tight to your 30yr us treasury bonds and we will see who has more money 5 years from now.
I don’t want to get in the middle of realty trac and MBA’s foreclosure number. What I can say is, more than 100,000 colorado homeowner’s lost their homes over the past 4 years to shrot sales and foreclosures(albeit, at a slower rate recently).
My eight county front range foreclosure index data is compiled. The numbers are very low again for Dec 2012. Although December has fewer business days, it has in the four prior years I have compiled the data, been higher than November, by an average of about 30%. I do not know why. This year it was down by about 2% from Nov. 2012.
As a perspective buyer, I lost a bid on a home today in the 6th Ave West neighborhood. I put in an offer for list price the day the house came on the market. I’ve been renting for year and half since moving here after selling my house in Houston for a loss. I am quite concerned with the current lack of inventory and the number of buyers. It’s a feeding frenzy and having done some successful inventing I the past, I feel like now is the “buying high” time. I don’t know if the “selling low” part of a bad investment is yet to come. It’s like any investment, usually when everyone is buying and prices skyrocket, it’s too late. On the other side of that, with interest rates as low as they are, it’s hard to pass up.
So I have a question for the gurus on this site and I ask you to please be objective and empathetic: Do you think it is likely or unlikely that when more houses come on the market (which they will eventually), that prices will fall dramatically? And, do you think even though this may be possible, are the historically low interest rates are enough to compensate for this potential risk?
One other thing to factor in… Having owned two houses, I hate renting!
Thanks!
Hi AWillis! As a REALTOR in Denver for 8 years now, I can tell you that this is definitely NOT the “Buying High” time. We are just coming off of the bottom of rock bottom only a year or two ago. There was so much inventory sellers were going bankrupt just waiting the 9-12 months or more it took to sell a home that was priced right! What you are experiencing now is the result of so many sellers being told by realtors to wait and that now isn’t the time to sell. People think that the recovery period happens slowly, and on some levels that is correct, but once the inventory scales tip and there are more buyers in the market than homes on the market, then almost overnight you have the kind of sellers market you are experiencing in Denver. But fear not, everyone has been waiting to get through the holiday season and if you wait only a month (or two maybe three) you will start to see a huge increase in inventory. Sellers are aware that NOW is the time to sell. But for you as a buyer you still have a wonderful window of opportunity. Rates are still very low and although inventory is low, prices have not yet started to inflate, but mark my words I think in only 9-12 months we will be in the “Buying high” time again and prices will start to peak out. But because homes are being priced based on sales comps over the last 12 months when prices were dropping just to get it sold, prices are still very affordable in Denver and by most measures, still cheaper than renting! So take advantage of some of the best interest rates in history and do not wait another year to buy, but do maybe wait a month or two when you are not competing for the bottom of the barrel, all the homes that didn’t sell last year or the feeding frenzy from the buyers who are starving for the first trickle of new homes coming on the market. Take some time but when you do see one you like, make sure your realtor is getting notified the minute it comes on the market, be ready to see it and write an offer the same day. I always tell buyers it is much easier to get out of a contract than to get into one in a market like this. If you don’t have an agent you are working with, feel free to send me an email and I would be happy to chat more about strategy. Good luck!
Nice advertising Amy LaBorde….. Don’t you think you might want to also mention potential pitfalls? You say, ” I can tell you that this is definitely NOT the “Buying High” time”. How would you “definitely” know that? When Realtor you the words “always” , “definitely” and never” you should think twice about their advice. I’m sure we can remember the Realtor slogan for years, It’s a good time to buy, because prices “always” rise. Remember from high school and colleges when answering a true/false question? When you see the words “always”, “never” and “definitely”. 99 out of 100 times the answer is false.
Also, if you are going to advertise on this site, you should pay John Rebchook. I’m sure he is not spending his time writing these great articles because he likes to sit around and read post by Dave B, JohnD, Dj and I argue on the blog.
Well, it is one of the perks of writing it, Jason.
It depends on your time frame in the home you are buying. A 3.25% rate and a long enough time frame will mitigate your chance of loosing money. Make sure you are buying a home you will live in for the next 6 year. As you know from selling your last home at a loss, realtor and transaction fees made your loss much more substantial. Good luck!
I really did not answer your question. I see home prices rising only 2-3% per yearning forward, mainly due to stagnant real wages, down payment constraints, and most of all, rising rates in 2014-15. Home affordability will drop and I can’t see prices rising quickly. You have many people on this site who think prices will double in 2 years. Use common sense when listening to them.
First off, thanks for reply. It’s difficult to get candid, objective advice. Makes perfect sense. I’m sure you can understand me being a little gun shy here but I think you’re right and it simply comes down to getting the right house and being able to stay in it for long enough. And there in lies gamble. Having said that, I would bet that rent is only going to go up. I think I’m going to buy a really nice tent…
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http://www.rei.com/product/827807/rei-kingdom-6-tent-2012
Prices in Denver will continue to rise at about a 10% annual pace for at least the next couple of years. After expenses, your return will be ok, but not great. My advice, buy a 4-plex and rent the other 3 units. Your ROI will be 10 times higher than dumping money into a personal residence.
@AWillis
You have your cause and effect backward. People are not listing existing homes and builders are not building new homes until prices rise. Prices dictate new inventory. New Inventory is not dictating prices. There may be other potential reasons that home prices fall in 2013, but the scenario you describe is not going to happen in 2013. “Maybe” by 2015 or 2016 the market will be over built again, and the cycle will repeat itself.
“lost a bid on a home today…offer for list price the day the house came on the market…concerned with the current lack of inventory”
1. “Do you think it is likely or unlikely that when more houses come on the market (which they will eventually), that prices will fall dramatically?”
No.
a. Surf to http://www.deptofnumbers.com/asking-prices/colorado/denver/ and you will see that inventory has dropped by 67% from the peak in 2007.
b. That drop is fairly short term and you should also consider the longer view. Inventory in greater Denver has traditionally been in the mid-20Ks and representing a 4-5 month supply. That is “normal”.
c. We are now down to a 2-3 month month supply. So, even if a huge number of houses come on the market this Spring, it will be a return to normal.
d. Prices have gone up, but less than 10% YoY. This is not a buying frenzy. If prices drop–even a bit–with increased inventory, then houses will be yanked off the market. No one wants to sell and lose money.
2. ” And, do you think even though this may be possible, are the historically low interest rates are enough to compensate for this potential risk?”
Life is full of risk.
You “hate renting”.
Buy now and lock in a stupidly low interest rate.
Live in the house for 6+ years and you won’t care about price fluctuations.
3. This is a very strange market in Denver.
a. Buying frenzy for certain houses, but prices not increasing dramatically.
b. Falling supply and decent demand (thanks to very low interest rates) and classical economics would predict rising prices, but it ain’t happening.
c. The feared shadow inventory of foreclosed houses appears to be a myth.
d. One year ago (and 2+ years ago), in Denver, its was a buyers’ market. Prospective buyers looked at 100 houses and made low-ball offers. 11 months ago it flipped OVERNIGHT to a sellers’ market. See a house at 0800 on first day and make an offer (or not) at 0810 for list price. NO ONE PREDICTED THIS. NO ONE.
4. It could be worse.
Interest rates could be at 14%.
We could still be at war with the Soviet Union.
BUY YOUR HOUSE.